========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 Jun 90 17:42:02 -0400 Reply-To: Text Encoding Initative public discussion list Sender: Text Encoding Initative public discussion list From: Don Walker Subject: New book on SGML NEW BOOK ON SGML "Practical SGML" by E. van Herwijnen Published by Kluwer, June 1990; 307 pages, paperback, $39.95; ISBN 0-7923-0635-X. Orders can be placed through: Kluwer Academic Publishers Order Department P.O. Box 358 Accord Station Hingham, MA 02018-0358 Customer Service Department at 617-871-6600. Credit Cards are accepted. Publicity prose: Are you fed up with incompatible word processor formats? Are you frustrated by the lack of interchangeability of the documents you painstakingly create? Or do you have difficulties in creating an integrated database of documents in a multivendor environment? If so, "Practical SGML" is for you. It shows how, by using SGML, you can interchange documents and process them on many different systems in many different ways. SGML, the Standard Generalized Markup Language, is the ISO (International Standards Organization) standard for text representation. The SGML format is independent of a particular text formatter of any kind of processing. It is portable, structured, and readable, making it easier to create document databases. With the US Department of Defense and many computer manufacturers expressing their interest in SGML through the CALS (Computer-aided Acquisition and Logistics Support) initiative, this standard, and any application using it, is guaranteed a long and fruitful life. "Practical SGML" will help you make the most of it. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Jun 90 23:22:58 EDT Reply-To: Text Encoding Initative public discussion list Sender: Text Encoding Initative public discussion list From: Willard McCarty Subject: Re: New book on SGML In-Reply-To: Message of Sat, 16 Jun 90 17:42:02 EDT from Dear Colleague: From 27 May to 29 June 1990 I am out of the country and so gone from this address, chiefly to attend the ALLC/ICCH conference in Siegen, Germany. Mail will be kept faithfully for me here, but if I do not reply to your message in early July, please resend your message then. Yours, Willard McCarty ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Jun 90 09:54:00 GMT Reply-To: Text Encoding Initative public discussion list Sender: Text Encoding Initative public discussion list From: Lou Burnard The first fruits of the Text Encoding Initiative have put in an appearance, at last. A preliminary version of the TEI Guidelines for the encoding of machine readable texts was presented at recent conferences in Pittsburgh (ACL) and in Siegen (ACH/ALLC) at the start of June. A presentation about the Guidelines also attracted much interest at the recent ICAME meeting in Berlin. The text of this first draft of the Guidelines is currently being finalised within the TEI committees, and will be published on July 15th. The draft will be distributed freely in order to solicit the maximum feedback and comment within the community which the Guidelines hope to address. Over the next two years, we hope that the draft proposals in the Guidelines will be refined, expanded, contradicted, revised, argued over, quarrelled about, misunderstood, expounded, applied, misapplied, enthused over -- anything except ignored. This bulletin board, and others like it, will be used extensively for these purposes, as will other more conventional means of publication and scholarly dispute. A further announcement will be made on this bulletin board as soon as the draft is available. Lou Burnard Michael Sperberg-McQueen ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 24 Jun 90 13:21:21 EDT Reply-To: Text Encoding Initative public discussion list Sender: Text Encoding Initative public discussion list From: Willard McCarty In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 18 Jun 90 05:54:00 EDT from Dear Colleague: From 27 May to 29 June 1990 I am out of the country and so gone from this address, chiefly to attend the ALLC/ICCH conference in Siegen, Germany. Mail will be kept faithfully for me here, but if I do not reply to your message in early July, please resend your message then. Yours, Willard McCarty ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 24 Jun 90 12:26:28 CDT Reply-To: Text Encoding Initative public discussion list Sender: Text Encoding Initative public discussion list From: Richard Goerwitz Subject: where is SGML being used Is SGML actually being used anywhere on a large scale? Is there soft- ware based on it (i.e. academic, multilingual wordprocessors and text bases)? I'm just curious. -Richard L. Goerwitz goer%sophist@uchicago.bitnet goer@sophist.uchicago.edu rutgers!oddjob!gide!sophist!goer ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 25 Jun 90 11:05:00 GMT Reply-To: Text Encoding Initative public discussion list Sender: Text Encoding Initative public discussion list From: Lou Burnard Subject: in reply to goerwitz Tempting though it is to reply to Richard Goerwitz' query (is anyone using SGML? what software exists?) "Gasp! rumbled at last! all right governor, it's a fair cop - there's no such thing as SGML software at all!!" the facts of the matter are as follows: 1. SGML is very widely used and even more widely promoted outside the academic community. 2. Software exists. 3. Eric van Herwijnen's `Practical SGML', recently published by Kluwers, is a very readable, informative and up to date summary of activities in the SGML world. 4. Here (from memory) is a brief list of SGML parsing/validating software: a. From Sema Group MarkIt WriteIt b. From Software Exoterica XGML Validator XGML Normaliser XGML CheckMark XGML Translator c. From SoftQuad: AuthorEditor d. From IBM: DCF/SGML edition LEXX e. From Open Texts Systems PAT f. Academic projects TOLK (Turing Inst) DAPHNE (DFN) However, one of the most interesting things about SGML is precisely that you don't need special purpose software to use it. If you are dealing with an existing correctly-tagged SGML document, then any old piece of string handling software can be cobbled together to make sense of the tags. If you can recognise tokens in an input stream and maintain a stack then you can do it yourself! Robin Cover (ZRCC1001@SMUVM1) has for many years been compiling an exceptionally full and detailed bibliography of publications and software relating to SGML. This is being worked on within one of the committees of the TEI and is due for publication shortly. Lou Burnard ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 25 Jun 90 14:25:29 MEZ Reply-To: Text Encoding Initative public discussion list Sender: Text Encoding Initative public discussion list From: "R. WYTEK" Subject: Re: where is SGML being used In-Reply-To: Message of Sun, 24 Jun 90 12:26:28 CDT from On Sun, 24 Jun 90 12:26:28 CDT Richard Goerwitz said: >Is SGML actually being used anywhere on a large scale? Is there soft- >ware based on it (i.e. academic, multilingual wordprocessors and text >bases)? I'm just curious. > Please accept the same questions from me also, potent partners in the project don't guarantee success, remmeber e.g. ADA. I hear in Germany courses are held about SGML, and several of the great companies like Bosch, Siemens etc. change their publication standards to SGML. Could one of the SGML initiates send me a short text file with SGML commands? Is SGML only a sophisticated version of IBM's GML? Many thanks for answers, I'm new to this list and hope this isn't snow of yesteryear for all. Rudolf WYTEK, Computer Center, Univ. of Vienna. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 Jun 90 13:19:30 EDT Reply-To: Text Encoding Initative public discussion list Sender: Text Encoding Initative public discussion list From: Willard McCarty Subject: Re: where is SGML being used In-Reply-To: Message of Sun, 24 Jun 90 13:26:28 EDT from Dear Colleague: From 27 May to 29 June 1990 I am out of the country and so gone from this address, chiefly to attend the ALLC/ICCH conference in Siegen, Germany. Mail will be kept faithfully for me here, but if I do not reply to your message in early July, please resend your message then. Yours, Willard McCarty ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 Jun 90 13:24:15 EDT Reply-To: Text Encoding Initative public discussion list Sender: Text Encoding Initative public discussion list From: Willard McCarty Subject: Re: in reply to goerwitz In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 25 Jun 90 07:05:00 EDT from Dear Colleague: From 27 May to 29 June 1990 I am out of the country and so gone from this address, chiefly to attend the ALLC/ICCH conference in Siegen, Germany. Mail will be kept faithfully for me here, but if I do not reply to your message in early July, please resend your message then. Yours, Willard McCarty ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 Jun 90 13:26:02 EDT Reply-To: Text Encoding Initative public discussion list Sender: Text Encoding Initative public discussion list From: Willard McCarty Subject: Re: where is SGML being used In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 25 Jun 90 10:25:29 EDT from Dear Colleague: From 27 May to 29 June 1990 I am out of the country and so gone from this address, chiefly to attend the ALLC/ICCH conference in Siegen, Germany. Mail will be kept faithfully for me here, but if I do not reply to your message in early July, please resend your message then. Yours, Willard McCarty